i hate to start it off like this but my homegurl ebonne has the whole week dedicated to relationships so she asked me to do a collaboration with her to see if we could skool some people
you can get her version here to see her comments.
you can get her version here to see her comments.
it's my birthday too yall
yup turned 27 and i feel like kat williams in the pimp chronicles when he was imitating white people by saying "tonight, we're gonna get f#*ked up" lol
but any who, here's the post and give some honest feedback please
it would be very much appreciated
my writing is in blue, her's is in lilac (pink for the guys lol)
Who's causing more problems in the relationship men or women
The question is really irrelevant because it doesn't matter. Just phrased it like this because so many of us are used to playing the blame game. If I had to say who was mostly to blame I would have to say the men are. Why? It's the men's fault because we don't know our roles as men. The man's responsibility is to protect and provide for, not only his wife and children, but his community, ethnic group and nation. No healthy group of men ever see the end point of their lives as working for another group of men and leaving the responsibility for providing food, clothes, shelter and jobs in the hands of those other men. It's no wonder black women have so much contempt for black men, because like E said on my independent women post, "Seriously, ya'll always whining about the independent woman... if ya'll stepped ya'll game up and was taking care of business we wouldn't have to be so damn independent!"
She is absolutely correct. But in order to hold somebody accountable they have to know right from wrong. This is why I believe that it's really not the black man's fault. He was never taught this. The responsibility does fall on the ones (like me and the black men who are reading this now, sorry lol) who are conscious of this fact. And the ones who are conscious of this fact have been doing a terrible job for the most part (like me).Also, you have to look at who benefits from us being divided (black men from black women). The best way to get a people to serve you is to make them dependent on you. Another way to keep people dependent on you is to break the self confidence of the ones who are strong enough to go against you, the men of the group. You do this by cutting off their examples of real manhood, and by giving them a false image of what manhood really is. Tell him that being unable to resist sleeping with a woman is the essence of manhood. Tell him anything that doesn't require him being the sole providers and protectors of his women and children.
Can we really do this though TUBS? When we approach men about these issues aren't we looked at as the Angry Bitter Black B*tch? Yes, we most certainly do. But I think it can be done if the ladies realize that its all about the approach. We need to bring back the stabilization of sitting down and having meaningful conversation with men. To leave the situation alone when we feel everything that comes out of our mouth will be loud and abrasive. Remove ourselves from the situation until we can talk about it in a calm matter, because as soon as we start to yell or scold is when men tune us out.Our education is controlled by another group of men.
If you had a business and you hired someone, would you train them to be equal to you and start a business like you so that they could be your competition? Uhhhh no, lol. You are gonna train them to serve you. You might give them a nice pay for doing a good job in what you created, but you are not going to train them to be equal to you. And some of us believe that other people have our best interest in mind. Some do, but most don't.
In closing, if the black man and the black woman really loved each other and got along the way that we should, then no other group or race would be able to use us and exploit us the way they do now.But it shows how smart we really are as a people.
Every other ethnic group in the world feeds off of our ignorance but yet we still love each other the best way we can. We still have the desire to be with each other, so they haven't been doing a good job of keeping us divided.
Is the desire to be with each other really still there? You would think that with the percentage of interracial marriages where the black man is the African American counterpart in the relationship that black men may have the desire but aren't up for putting in the work. Let's discuss further. I agree with TUBS that the men are more at fault. They have stepped down from the traditional role of being the head of the household.
Let's talk about it...
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11 comments:
Happy Birthday JT,
I think both sexes are responsible for causing the most havoc in the relationship. The reason I say this is that men at times know what it takes to be man. Most men know the core values of being a man. Yes, I am not a man but I will venture to say that most men really do know that they are the ones who are to protect their woman, children, community and the nation of their people. However, many have their own personal battles that they are fighting within and simply do not have the energy or the focus to focus-on more than one thing at a time. Therefore, they retreat to places that feeds their shattered ego, which comes from not being able to solve their own problems thus not being capable to solve or entertain the problems in ALL of their relationships such as work, school, with women, within their community or with their children.
In addition, we women sometimes do not know when to shut the He!! Up! Sorry ladies, but it is TRUE. We will take a discussion from in season to out of season. I am a woman and at times, I can withdraw instead of expressing my feelings or displeasure with the man. It is true ladies, men sometimes do not have a clue on why we act the way we do, so it is up to us to communicate to them in a calm tone our feelings. Moreover, if we need to cool down we too can find a place that is our secret haven when times get stressful and retreat there as well until we can speak to that man in a cool and civilize manner.
I personally believe timing is everything. Both sexes have to learn THEIR OWN mate. Know what their likes and dislikes are. In addition, knowing how to calm them down, even if it is being quiet while we allow our mate to let his or her frustration out!!!!!!!!
And, please ALWAYS remember 9 out of 10 of the times it is not about YOU anyway! It is about them. So just, be there for them when they come down off their tantrum high.
thank you baby
i know i'm gonna have a good time tonight
i should have a lot of fun
I ain't saying it again... still waiting for my thank yous...
both are to blame.... like i been saying since the day i was born... we got to go after what we want and work at it...
first happy bornday
yeah im late
u'll survive
secondly i think the problem might be viewing these issues in terms of generalities (cool on a blog, not so practical in real life)
it's not so much the angry black woman or the no good man that should be examined
more so what made them that damn way in the first place
Which can only be done on a case by case basis
and OPEN COMMUNICATION
happy belated.
about who is to blame... it all depends on the nature of the problem. if he took his skunky ass and cheated,he is to blame
if he came home alil late and bitch wont shut up about where he hs bin, whom he's bin wit, doin wat wit whoever, then it is her fault he snapped and...hit her?
but on the real, it is very hard to delegate blame. i tink it varies from relationship to relationship.
I said it at my spot but I'll say it again here...
Happy Birthday first... even though it will appear a day late here...
and thanks again for teaming up with me on this...
tomorrow is gonna get real crazy....LOL!
Dammit...
I'm late *SIGH*
Hope you had a VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :-)
Great idea btw collaborating with Eb on this issue!! It's nice to see everyone else's point of view.
Well, first off I have always treated everyone as an equal. I expect grown people to be able to make grown up decisions and I am more than willing to share my knowledge as a supervisor. If I had my own business, I would share my knowledge with my employee, if they had a desire to open a business of their own. Is that foolish? Probably, but that is just me. When I was studying fo rthe Sergeant's exam, I shared my notes with the people that I felt close to, even though I knew that were my competition. But that's just me. As far as causes the most problems, I think it's about fifty-fifty. Sometimes it's the man and sometime it's the woman. The problem is neither want to take responsiblity for their own actions. I remember when I first read Waiting to Exhale, oh so many years ago. All woman could see was the dirt that me were protraited as doing in the book (and movie), but they seemed to have turned a blind eye to the dirt that the main characters in the book were guilty of their damn selves. I also agree with the lady in pink. A lot of conflict could be avoided and resolved if both would take time to chill out and talk later instead of in the heat of battle. Peace.
oh....Happy Birthday!
I just wanted to say happy birthday...!
Happy belated birthday James...hope it was a lovely day....
As for ur post...it takes 2 to tango babe, we can't cause problems unless we have partners in crime...either that or its the men...they be chasing anything in skirts and causing a whole bunch of trouble...
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